NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Things are progressing relatively well, I'll post more of an update tomorrow, now I've read multiple things on the forum, and I'm undecided which way to go at the minute, do I fit the calliper at the front, or the rear? If I fit it to the front, what problems will I come across when I come to fit my anti roll bar? And if I fit the to the rear, what problems will I come across with brake flexis etc?
All response welcome!
Cheers
Matt
All response welcome!
Cheers
Matt
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Spotlight Spring 1998 has a whole section on modifying A35 brakes .. might be something we need to resurrect (and re-write) in a future mag with some updating.
I'm pretty sure there have been several threads on the forum about disk brake hoses, and some recently .. like this one ...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9795&p=112405&hilit ... ke#p112405
... adds to the idea that we need a central location to store all this useful info (On my "for consideration" list!)
I'm pretty sure there have been several threads on the forum about disk brake hoses, and some recently .. like this one ...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9795&p=112405&hilit ... ke#p112405
... adds to the idea that we need a central location to store all this useful info (On my "for consideration" list!)
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
gazza82 wrote:Spotlight Spring 1998 has a whole section on modifying A35 brakes .. might be something we need to resurrect (and re-write) in a future mag with some updating.
I'm pretty sure there have been several threads on the forum about disk brake hoses, and some recently .. like this one ...
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9795&p=112405&hilit ... ke#p112405
... adds to the idea that we need a central location to store all this useful info (On my "for consideration" list!)
Cheers Gary! I'll take a look.
I have to agree that would be a good idea
Ta
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
When I fitted mine the general consensus was to fit them to the front, which I did. But now with the academy racers fitting them to the rear with bespoke hoses, that seems to be the new vogue.
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Not so much vogue as current best advice*...David Swain wrote:When I fitted mine the general consensus was to fit them to the front, which I did. But now with the academy racers fitting them to the rear with bespoke hoses, that seems to be the new vogue.
I recently fitted one to the front of the hub with a standard brake hose, as has been the recommended way for years, and whilst the spring was out I was able to move the suspension and steering throughout its entire range and I could not find a position for the hose that I was happy with for all of the extremes. But don't just take my word for it... (I'm a firm believer in the principle of 'two heads are better than one')... try it for yourself with the original hose... It will only take you a few minutes...
*it may well be the case that a better way is with them mounted to the front and using a bespoke hose, made up with an A35 type body fitting on one end and a Midget type fitting on the other (I've no idea of the optimum length required). That would have taken more time and have involved the delay and expense of one-off hoses. Now that Moto-Build can supply a tried and tested method with a hose available 'off the shelf', that is my current 'best advice...
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
It's been a busy week cleaning, painting and re-bushing and Nellie is progressing steadily! Just her second stub axle and shocker to paint tomorrow and then she'll be ready to have her drivers side built up! It's my first time replacing and reamering new bushes for the kingpins in the stubaxle and I've quite enjoyed doing it! There's also quite a lot of satisfaction out of cleaning up old parts with 40+ and 50+ years of dirt, rust and grime on them, and then giving them a fresh coat of paint!
I'm thoroughly enjoying her brake overhaul! And I've only got one scar/slice on my finger so far!
I'll keep you all updated as she progresses further!
I'm thoroughly enjoying her brake overhaul! And I've only got one scar/slice on my finger so far!
I'll keep you all updated as she progresses further!
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
If you are planning to fit your calipers to the front, then you will need to cut the backplate a little. There are photos on my Rev thread. Looks like you are doing a fantastic job.
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Won't want to fit them to the front now then after all that lovely purple paint!
And those greenstuff pads .. you might want to consider something else ... the tales I've heard about them are not favourable.
And those greenstuff pads .. you might want to consider something else ... the tales I've heard about them are not favourable.
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Cheers David! I didn't know that! I'll take a look anyway! However I am fitting them to the rear! And it's a good job now! Haha!
And thanks Gary! I have heard some stories about them squeeling (after I'd bought them may I add) so I'll have a think about what I'll do about them! Haha.
Thanks again Fellas
And thanks Gary! I have heard some stories about them squeeling (after I'd bought them may I add) so I'll have a think about what I'll do about them! Haha.
Thanks again Fellas
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Try them but be prepared to buy something else .. Mintex or Ferodo have always been my favourite brands
PS I must admit to having a set in the garage but I was given them ..
PS I must admit to having a set in the garage but I was given them ..
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
gazza82 wrote:And those greenstuff pads .. you might want to consider something else ... the tales I've heard about them are not favourable.
Interesting comments from Gazza on Green Stuff pads. Would like to know more detail...gazza82 wrote:Try them but be prepared to buy something else .. Mintex or Ferodo have always been my favourite brands
PS I must admit to having a set in the garage but I was given them ..
In recent years, we've used Mintex or EBC for track use: Mintex 1144 and 1155 have been fine. But the Rocket has EBC Blue Stuff which has worked extremely well under the most arduous conditions...
Interesting stuff...
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Feedback from various forums .. Alfa, Mini, etc .. most reports on Greenstuff say they are very squealy and take some work to get them to stop well. I'm sure a lot of buyers just go for the "nice colour" ..
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Thanks Garygazza82 wrote:... most reports on Greenstuff say they >>> take some work to get them to stop well.
Is that due to slow bedding-in or pads reaching working temperature Could be wrong application for the pad material...
Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Got a little more done on Nellie last weekend, but as I'm now back at uni the pace has slowed down a little! however things will get done!
My dad spent last Saturday stripping off all of her old waxoyl from the inner wing, revealing some of her shiny paintwork and some red lead below!
He then re-applied a fresh coat of waxoyl!
Then on Sunday morning we did the first part of re-assembly! her bottom arm is now fit with new bushes, and her new shocker is now in place also!
More to come as we progress!
My dad spent last Saturday stripping off all of her old waxoyl from the inner wing, revealing some of her shiny paintwork and some red lead below!
He then re-applied a fresh coat of waxoyl!
Then on Sunday morning we did the first part of re-assembly! her bottom arm is now fit with new bushes, and her new shocker is now in place also!
More to come as we progress!
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Re: NSJ 831 - Nellies Front Brake and Suspension Overhaul!
Almost there with the drivers side!
Got the steering arm and stub axle fitted and shimmed up, spring back in, anti roll bar mount fitted and the back plate on! Just got the hub to mount to the disc and then fit! then she'll be ready for her caliper and pads fitting!
Then we will move onto the passenger side!
And we will probably be leaving the plumbing until after both sides are assembled!
Got the steering arm and stub axle fitted and shimmed up, spring back in, anti roll bar mount fitted and the back plate on! Just got the hub to mount to the disc and then fit! then she'll be ready for her caliper and pads fitting!
Then we will move onto the passenger side!
And we will probably be leaving the plumbing until after both sides are assembled!
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